Guild leaders are like politicians. If you have a desire to be one you should automacticaly be banned from ever becoming one. The craving for power and control are not character traits you want in someone leading a nation or a guild. The problem is that if the guild leader is the most single minded, totally obsessed, fiercely determined member of your guild then they cannot empathise with the rest of their team mates.
I’ve seen it so many times, where the guild leader forgets that the vast majority of us come here to relax and have fun. We get stress all day at work. We are surrounded by formality and rules. We might even get it in the neck from the missus when we get home. Those few hours we get to play WoW are precious and we want to enjoy them. We’re really sorry if you have no life and make WoW the Black Hole around which your world revolves but YOU ARE NOT A TYPICAL RAIDER! And we are not your glorified hunters pet. You don’t point us in a particular direction and press KILL. We do not want to hear your rantings when things don’t go just the way you planned. We don’t want every single mistake we make paraded out in front of the whole guild. We want our guild to be a democracy not a dictatorship. We want to have a say in the decisions made and more than anything we want it to be fun.
I don’t mind someone /w me to tell me I should have interrupted a certain spell or even having a chat on vent about it. If I’m the only one continually dying then I will want to know why. But if you are doing raid progression and everyone is wiping then you just have to understand that we learn by mistakes and that an effective kill strategy ’evolves’. If you die at a certain point in the raid, next attempt you try something different. If you survive you keep it as part of your strategy, if not you try something else. No amount of lecturing, research, watching videos will ever replace this process because every single one of the 10/25 people in the raid see things from a different point of view. Everything they do may depend on the actions of any one of the other 9/24 members so it’s impossible to write a script for a boss kill. It has to evolve from the chaos of all these complex individuals interacting together.
If you understand and except that then even raid progression can be fun. If not then don’t start a damn guild. Go invade a country or something but leave us to enjoy our raiding.
interesting view, to be sure. I tried a 25m team like that for one run. The GL was the general, and the focus was not on having fun or being social. He didn't even use names, just classes. "Hunter, make sure you're...". I expect that in a PuG, but not in a raid. I lasted a few hours, and then left, /gquit, and moved on.
ReplyDeleteI find I simply don't have patience for the far-end hard core progression raiders.
Looking forward to seeing more posts - just found you!
I disagree with some key points. If no-one is told when they are screwing up, and left to figure it out for themselves, progress is usually much slower. And if say 7 out of 10 are doing ok, why should they have to have their time wasted by others who can't take a bit of criticism?
ReplyDelete@ Krips I did say I would appreciate being told if I'm getting things wrong. No one wants to wipe all night. But there are ways to do it without belittling people.
ReplyDelete@ Peeshooter I honestly believe you CAN be a casual raider and ever a casual raider during raid progression. It’s just a matter of attitude and approach. Your mantra should always be “it’s just a game”
BTW welcome aboard your my 1st official follower ;).....I suppose it doesn't count when you follow your own blog lolz
@Roidrage: I'll admit that I misread that bit! But this is an issue in our guild at the moment. Some people cannot take any criticism. I have seen people this week act like scolded children when they have just been given constructive advice.
ReplyDeleteAlso, with the amount of boss tactics on the net these days, in our guild a strategy rarely "evolves." Everyone in our raid knows what to do, but one or two mistakes and it's a wipe. This went on all night. At some stage, the RL has to get tough, because for every raider that just sees raid night as a bit of fun there is another who is sick of people who are wasting time with avoidable mistakes.
I've got something up today which goes into the whole "casual" raiding thing:
ReplyDeletehttp://deathtoquesting.blogspot.com/2011/02/are-there-casual-raiders.html